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Mario Or Zelda? The final debate...

Poll: Which is better: Mario or Zelda? (24 member(s) have cast votes)

Which is better: Mario or Zelda?

  1. Mario (12 votes [50.00%])

    Percentage of vote: 50.00%

  2. Zelda (12 votes [50.00%])

    Percentage of vote: 50.00%

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#31 User is offline   Micah 

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Posted 04 July 2004 - 10:15 PM

I like the classic meter style where there is a section at the top or bottom of the screen that has all the meters and stuff. The pause menu gives everything else ;).
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Posted 05 July 2004 - 02:15 AM

Micah, on Jul 1 2004, 02:15 PM, said:

I found all those meters distracting...but I never complained about it. If I don't like something about a game...well...I just won't play it.

I have four eyes, for some reason I can look at both the meters and the game itself. I'm amazing.

As for my vote, well this is tricky, Zelda is good the only flaw with N64 games was the annoying camera, but the N64 games and SNES one only appeal me the rest are sortof a fail. the NES Zelda did not appeal me whatsoever and Z:WW is horrid. Mario 3 is probably the only good MArio game he rest are quite poor so yeah, Zelda it is.
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Posted 05 July 2004 - 03:57 AM

Seriously, they're just games.
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Posted 05 July 2004 - 05:07 AM

Razerboy, on Jul 4 2004, 11:57 PM, said:

Seriously, they're just games.

. . . You're... point, Razerboy?
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Post icon  Posted 05 July 2004 - 07:07 AM

As much as I love the Zelda games, I had to say Mario for variety. That and Super Mario RPG is the best RPG game I've ever played for the SNES AKA Super Famicon.
Even though the Mario games have conflicting storylines, they attempt to hide that by making games limited in value like Mario party. *Gah*

I'm rating relitively to every game I've played of both series.

Zelda is labeled as an RPG and since Super Mario RPG surpassed that beauty in RPGdom where you chose the battles, hearing no annoying battle cries or echoed clone cries, where you felt you were actually involved in the stories with no crappy camera angles or wall glitches to worry about. Where logical and intelligent thinking is what pulls you through in the ending level. A story of laughter and cries with fewer cross dressing dikes running around. A game that jokes about the addictions of modern youth by drawing them away from the Shroom and making them seek a imaginary one instead.

The games that were the best of all were the ones where they are seen together. Like Super Mario RPG, Super Smash Brothers, Television (Not anymore, but still), lame costumes of them at comic conventions, etc.

That nose is a repulsive thing on Mario. Even in the movie, a very strange Austin Powers thing going on with him and the ladies. They should be repulsed by his looks. Then again, Shrroms and alcohol make everyone look sexy.

I wouldnt know though because I'm a sheltered, good little boy. This isnt the face of a boy that would mow down random children at school with his father's illegally owned gattling gun, driving away in fear, accidentally running over the principal 7 times on the way out. (Disclaimer: I am NOT one of "Them", my parents are divorced and my father has never owned, nor will he ever own any illegal weapons as far as I know [Which is far enough] and I dont own a car even though I'm 19 and would not do that to anyone's principal, no matter how twisted my innocently throbbing mind gets.)

Getting back to the point, Link, who every newbie calls Zelda, (They should call mario Pauline, Daisy, Peach or yeast infection while they're at it.) gets on my nerves. But then I remember that it's just a game and that's why the flute is only cool when a giant stone ducky helps Link learn how to fly like Mario. Because people know they have no life at that point in time when they are in awe over such crappy things.

Isometric is king, that's why all of my future games will be made in a similar manner. It takes longer that way, but it's worth it in the long run. Just like Marble Madness, a classic forever. Or Biker Mice from Mars. Then again, that one game with the Turban boy, (Not prince of Persia) uhh I forgot the name, but the game with the knife throwing boy was almost as annoying as Rocky and Pocky, but worse because he makes a lame *Aughhhh* sound, which makes even Sonic 3d Blast look fun, which is an insult to the gaming community to say so. Because there were alot of awesome Sonic games and that one didnt make to my list of top favorites even though it was simple and fun. And was better than playing against that annoying Mecha Sonic or beating a simple DeeDeeDee in Kirby's Dream Course. The other forms of DeeDeeDee were better. I enjoy the TV show one too.

Raccoon City Mario(Lame Resident Evil reference placed here)... Sigh.. They just dont make them like they used to. Collecting items are fun. But the Game boy versions of both Zelda and Mario went too far. Especially the Zelda games. Tetris , a few 4 player games like Mario, Bomberman and Zelda, and Recorded TV shows are my favorites right now when it comes to my game boy.

Does anyone remember Punch Out and Super Punch Out? Lame games, but interesting Cameo and product placements were put all over the place! I guess that's what made it funny. I could name a few other games guilty of this crime, but I dont want to suck the fun out of the hunt. Plus they are kindda annoying to see or meantion anyhow.

Wild 9 was the last decently fun game I can find that Shiny has made. *Sniffles* Why is their viewpoint so flat? They even sucked the fun out of the Matrix! It even made Twisted Metal Black look good! And that was just some sickening stuff!

We all know there just games. But if you dont get into it, you wont enjoy it as much.

I've read books that have brought me literally into tears, others brought me to orgasmic reaction, but no matter what it was, I got into it. Others would yawn and say "How the hell did you finish that book so fast?" I dont understand how a person can get so wrapped up into a TV show and be so into it that they cant mute/ignore the commercails and yet they cant have the same feeling out of a book?! It's a sad world we live in when people react so much like hypocrites. We dont purposely seek to. It just happens. Like that pile of dung that a dog has just dumped outside in front of my door . Aw crud... Ok it's cleaned up... ;) if you think I licked it up with this tounge of mine, then shame on that person who thought so. If not, good for you fellow citizen. The world neads more sane, rational people like you in the world.

Zelda would have won my vote if it had as many games with Link's character in it thatn Mario. But Mario is their main insignia in games even like Kirby. Kinda like the way that annoying electric rodent Rabbit (Yes a Pika is part of the rabbit family. Unless you are referring to a Kinkachu) Pikachu that's printed on every pile of Pukemon merchandise. Too bad. YUGIOH got ruined that way too. Self advertizing and lame Asian Pagantry really sucks the fun out of these shows. Cowboy Bebop was deep though. Too bad it was canceled.

I'm sorry to say this fans, but I hate every Final Fantasy Movie and video game. The only parts I didnt hate was the first 10 minutes of FF Tactics and the 3 hours of FF Hentai. Shame on me. The problem with FF is that it's all eye candy and not alot of thinking needed great for a cheap thrill, but otherwise, it gets boring after 3 hours or less for me. Pressing the circle button or the A button thoughout the entire game is all you really need to do to win when you think about it. Roughly 80% of the game is pressing one button over and over. Especially when battling or saving. There's a difference between convieniece and lack of variety. Castlevania was also a victim of this FF lameness.

It's games like that which make classics like Nosferatu fun to play.

Movie scenes and diolog should never be more important than the actual game play. Because if so, then it's no longer a game. It might as well be called a movie. Computer processing speed is way too superior to have old school RPG's being pleyed on them unlike modern ones such as True Crimes and Zelda which have taken over the top 10 lists in RPG coolness.

RPG's should not have a phoenix down rule if characters can die.It's just wrong that the woman with the smallest sized breasts(Other than the bitchy ninja girl that deserved to die) in FF7 dies and no one is really bothered by that. The same thing applies to pokemon and the ghost town level.

I dont think these game makers carry the same witty logic that Super Mario RPG had.

Some games just dont let you use the same crappy attacks everyone else has. It jhust really sucks the fun out of things. If a boss can spray millions of tiny flaming *poit* dots at your invincible armor, blowing you up, then you should either A: get those damn annoying dots in this jet fighting game or B: invent a better game and a non cliched plot line to excuse it so that the player can blame his/herself.

OK it's midnight. I rant when I dont get sleep so good night and I am sorry for the long, possibly meaningless post. I'll attempt to edit and cut out stuff in the morning if I remember it .

*Yawn*

Good night

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Posted 05 July 2004 - 01:32 PM

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Posted 05 July 2004 - 05:18 PM

God damn I wish I had the time to read all that.

Anyway, I have to say zelda. The thing is, with mario, the storyline is almost always the same "omg bowsor has kidnaped prinsess peech lolz go on a sidescrolling adventur and save her omg". With zelda, it's different. Another thing about zelda is that It's dungions are always fun to play through.

However I'd have to go with mario in the case of SMRPG. That game rocked so hard.
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Posted 06 July 2004 - 07:34 AM

guy, on Jul 5 2004, 01:18 PM, said:

God damn I wish I had the time to read all that.

No, you don't. Trust me, I did. You don't.
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Posted 06 July 2004 - 07:51 AM

asgromo, on Jul 6 2004, 01:34 AM, said:

guy, on Jul 5 2004, 01:18 PM, said:

God damn I wish I had the time to read all that.

No, you don't. Trust me, I did. You don't.

I read some of it then realised that he was just rambling on about random stuff. I guess that's just umkd.
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Post icon  Posted 06 July 2004 - 07:46 PM

It wasnt ALL random!
This site wont let me edit down posts anymore... That sucks!
Basically, what I'm trying to say is: Mario= 60%better
Why?
Relative to Variety and camios= Mario (Seen in almost every game)
Rel to best RPG before stupid 64= Mario RPG
Rel to best Hentai= Zelda, (Actually FF and a few others beat that ranking)
Rel to best tv show= Tied. (Earthworm Jim ,Sonic, Megaman and Kirby beat them.)
Rel to best crappy games= Tie (Mario Party, Super Smash Bros, etc)
Rel to smallest and easiest to read item screen= Mario
Rel to Best looking noses= Zelda
Rel to least artistic clash= Zelda
Rel to easier name to recognize from title=Mario
Rel to most isometric games = Mario (there's ~25 other games that look better )
Rel to solid storyline and names=Zelda
Rel to least annoying sfx=Mario
Rel to easiest platform game=Zelda
Rel to most drug references=Mario
Rel to classics= Mario
Rel to zombie fighting=Mario
Rel to boss difficulty=Tie
Rel to least conflicting storylines=Zelda
Rel to best theme music=Zelda
Rel to best villian development=Mario
Rel to most arcade games available=Mario
Rel to most overused character=Mario (HEY, wait a min. That's a bad thing!)
Rel to survivor in area swarming with enemies unarmed=Mario
Rel to fastest runner=Zelda
Rel to most likely to fly over conflict=Mario
Rel to trickiest keys to find=Mario
Rel to most reliable sidekicks=Mario
Rel to most entertaining childhood story line=Mario (Raised by deformed dragons)
Rel to most detailed castles=Zelda
Rel to most lava filled castles=Mario
Rel to most conveyor betls= Tie?
Rel to most kick attacks=Mario
Rel to most blade attacks=Zelda
Rel to Most advertized character=Mario (Oh... that explains the skewed ranking.)
Rel to Character with higheset defence level=Zelda (Err ...link)
Rel to Most unique character clones= Mario
Rel to Most confusing final level scroll repeat dungeon and/or staircase=Mario
Rel to Causes most devastating damage to fortresses=Mario
Rel to Has fewest suicidal bomber bosses=Mario
Rel to most suicidal bombers=Mario
Rel to realtime loading=Tie
Rel to victimization (Both sides) from most robberies=Zelda
Rel to most dangerous shopkeepers=Zelda(Yes they do murder you if you rob them)
Rel to most deadly weak monsters =Zelda (Die chickens... DIE!!!!)
Rel to most ridiculously funny costumes=Mario ( Hey... Did that statue just move?)
Rel to most languages in game=Zelda (Hey, what does "|`|.,\,\-|" Really mean?)
Rel to Simplest game to learn=Mario (What's so hard about run and jump? Gawd!)
Rel to least dialog=Mario
Rel to being hated the most as homework distraction=Mario
Rel to best death acting=Zelda ( Has been ripped off by Gex, Brave Fencer Musashi, etc)
Rel to cutest girls=Zelda
Rel to most spring platforms/Ramps=Mario
Rel to most labyrinths=Zelda
Rel to best relationship with sea creatures=Zelda
Rel to least interdimensional portals that complicate the storyline=Mario
Rel to most wannabe character characters interfering with your fight=Zelda (Remember the guy in the blue tights?)

As for storylines, Link is ALWAYS looking for the ultimate sword, even in camio games! ( And is also always tring to B Beat the Shit outta some one, C Wake up, D Learn how to play a deformed flute E Break down simple puzzles F Find some elders (Hmm, why does this sound like the princess complex?) G Save time H Save the Seasons I Get distracted in the game by a fairy J Collect alotta rupees K Collect more weapons L Do odd jobs for everyone M Climb through rotten forests and castles)
Mario on the other hand is ALWAYS trying to either (A save the world B save the princess C Win the race D beat the shit outta someone E Throw an item at the final boss F Break down simple puzzles G Beat the clock H Defy gravity I Get distracted in the game by another person who has shrooms growing out of his scalp from eating so many J Collect alotta coinage K Make good use of objects on the ground. K Climb through rotten sewage , forests , sky zones, waters and castles)
Thats why I think Mario is better by a small percentage even though both games sound exactly the same even though mario has more genres.
If anyone knows how to get me to delete that other post, please tell me. I hate wasting reading space

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Posted 07 July 2004 - 04:41 AM

You write too much (^_^) you must have ALOT of spare time on your hands or something.
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Posted 08 July 2004 - 06:12 AM

Zelda. Although honestly comparing those two classics is like comparing a near-perfect apple and a near-perfect orange...in other words, some people will just like one better than the other. I say Zelda because I've grown up more on it. Two of my fave games of all time are The Legend of Zelda: Ocarina of Time and Super Mario RPG: Legend of the Seven Stars.
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Posted 09 July 2004 - 02:19 AM

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saria (girl from the village). princess ruto (that weird fish chick). malon (the hot redhead on the farm). princess zelda. navi (YES SHE COUNTS).

link wins

you forgot the exotic danc-er, fairies.

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Posted 03 August 2004 - 06:53 AM

Hmmm...

Games Starring:

MARIO:
Donkey Kong 1 & 3
Super Mario Bros.
Super Mario Bros. 2 (unreleased in America until SM: All Stars + World)
Doki Doki Panic (aka SMB2 in USA)
Super Mario Bros. 3
Dr. Mario Series
Yoshi's Cookie
Super Mario Land 1 - 3
Super Mario World
Super Mario 64
Mario Kart Series
Mario Golf Series
Mario Party Series

LINK:
The Legend of Zelda
Links Adventure
A Link to the Past
Links Awakening
Ocarina of Time
Majoras Mask
Oracle of Seasons
Oracle of Ages
Wind Waker
The Four Swords


POPULARITY (counts down on score):

MARIO: 99.99999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999%
LINK: 00.00000000000000000000000000000000000000000000001%

I exaggerated, yes, but it should give you an idea.


FEATURES:

MARIO:
Fireballs
Mushrooms
Racoon Suits
Capes
Frog Suits
Tanooki Suits
Hammers
A Dinosaur
Invisibility Cap
Flight Cap
Metal Cap
Squirt Gun
Lotsa Money

LINK:
Five different swords
Two boomerangs
A Bow and Arrow
Three Tunics
Three Sheilds
Rods
Candles
A Hat (isn't it fun to watch his hat bobble around in A Link to the Past?)
A Whistle
An Ocarina
A pet bird
A damn annoying fairy


MY TWO CENTS:

MARIO:
What a retard. The games are cool; he isn't.

LINK:
Wouldn't you like a guy who beats undead shit up with a sword?


REALISM:

MARIO:
Very Cartoonish

LINK:
- Wind Waker, he is one of Nintendo's most real-looking characters


Overall:

LINK

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