[Chaos Theorist]

<d|=O
^ dunce hat lolz

[Goshi]

Doomboy, on Feb 13 2006, 01:41 PM, said:

???
How on earth do you NOT use a global bot?
well, not use it on a major project not a project for BXZX or DoZ.

I dunno never liked them to much to be honest

[GetDizzy]

easy: put a robot or two in the corner of every board.

[Ter13]

More than one global robot is kind of dumb. Then again, the entire robot concept is pretty dumb itself...

I think you CAN very well survive without mutliple globals.

As for me, I'm happy with my MZX... But I'm also dissatisfied, and I understand that Ex can't do anything major until 3.0, so I guess I'll just keep toiling away on my projects, and wait... >_<

[Spectere]

Multiple global robots can be quite handy. It would allow you to seperate your global functions into multiple bots, rather than having everything clumped into one.

I seem to recall that one of the plans for Exotic involve everything being a class, sort of like your new system. Honestly, I would love that.

[Terryn]

Not to mention that the global is likewise bound to 64k.

[Val]

If you write % in "color intensity # percent" instead of "percent" it should outomatically change that to the word. Actually, having it accept abbreviations of a lot of words would be nice.

Also, you know how you can hold shift when selecting a char in the char editing thing to grab a block of chars? What if you could do that with robots when you select the robot's char and have the robot cycle through the selected chars at a speed of whatever its cycle is, like an animation?

Both of these are just classic examples of me being lazy, though.

[Dr Lancer-X]

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If you write % in "color intensity # percent" instead of "percent" it should outomatically change that to the word. Actually, having it accept abbreviations of a lot of words would be nice.

Use a macro. Faster.

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Also, you know how you can hold shift when selecting a char in the char editing thing to grab a block of chars? What if you could do that with robots when you select the robot's char and have the robot cycle through the selected chars at a speed of whatever its cycle is, like an animation?

Requires a change to the save format. Won't happen. (not that I actually think it's a good idea)

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Both of these are just classic examples of me being lazy, though.

Indeed.

[CJA]

You could also use an extended macro with making the robot cycle through a range of chars...

This post has been edited by cja: 22 February 2006 - 02:34 AM

[Exophase]

Guy, on Feb 21 2006, 05:59 PM, said:

If you write % in "color intensity # percent" instead of "percent" it should outomatically change that to the word. Actually, having it accept abbreviations of a lot of words would be nice.

Also, you know how you can hold shift when selecting a char in the char editing thing to grab a block of chars? What if you could do that with robots when you select the robot's char and have the robot cycle through the selected chars at a speed of whatever its cycle is, like an animation?

Both of these are just classic examples of me being lazy, though.

I suggest you write a macro for the former if you want to save on typing, something like:

#ci(1, 100)

For the latter, that's just something that won't ever happen, it's so high level and specialized. Again you could write a macro for it too, and you can even use it with the GUI. Think about it though, how would MZX pull this off? It'd have to generate a robot for you, but then you either couldn't do anything with it or you'd be stuck with this stock robot that you'd have to wade through anyway, and with a macro you can customize a lot more what you want. There is a limitation though, and that's having to deal with label names in macros.. however if I added something to generate label names for them that'd fix that (oops, I also found a bug in the string widget that needs to be fixed...)

Anyway, try putting these in config.txt:

macro_1 = Color\sIntensity
(number255 color, intensity)
color intensity !color! !intensity! percent

macro_2 = Animate\sRobot
(char starting_character, ending_character)
(number255 speed)
(string16 label_name=a_loop)
set local !starting_character!
: !label_name!
char local
wait !speed!
inc local 1
if local <= !ending_character! !label_name!
set local !starting_character!
goto !label_name!

Then go into the robot editor and press F6 and F7. And try typing #1(5, 5) on a fresh robot line too.

- Exo

[smilymzx]

I got a suggestion that i like while programming\porting ZZT to mzx!
Can you make 2 of these:

1. Editable ZZT-style Color Names for MZX keys and locks!

2. A Colorname (ala ZIG) counter for robots that display messages!

[paulguy]

1. that's stupid and

2. I think what you want is ~# and @# where number is a hex color code for the background and freground respectively. I forget what the messagebox command for colored is, probably like % or something.

[smilymzx]

Paulguy, I said the 'Color counters' are the name counters
for the names of colors (Like the color names for keys and locks above)

Editable Colors Names (Counters):
Black
Dkblue
Dkgreen
Dkcyan
Dkred
Dkmagenta
Dkyellow (Or Brown, Whatever)
Dkwhite
Grey (Or Gray,)
Blue
Green
Cyan
Red
Magenta
Yellow
White

For example:

end
:touch
[ ''I am &Colorname&!''
end

And if it is Dark Blue (Dkblue):

I am Dkblue!

That is what i ment! (ZZT sucks a little bit, But in MZX sounds good.)
If anyone does not, I will do it. I got Mingw, But it is not installed yet!

-smilymzx

This post has been edited by smilymzx: 04 April 2006 - 01:15 AM

[Exophase]

I'm really bad with colors so some of these are probably wrong. If you don't understand what's going on here then please for the love of all that's holy stay away from MZX's source code.

. "Put me in the global robot!"
set "$color0" to "black"
set "$color1" to "dark blue"
set "$color2" to "dark green"
set "$color3" to "dark cyan"
set "$color4" to "dark red"
set "$color5" to "dark magenta"
set "$color6" to "brown"
set "$color7" to "grey"
set "$color8" to "dark grey"
set "$color9" to "blue"
set "$color10" to "green"
set "$color11" to "cyan"
set "$color12" to "red"
set "$color13" to "magenta"
set "$color14" to "yellow"
set "$color15" to "white"
end

. "Put me in some other robot."
end
: "touch"
* "~f&$color('this_color' a 15)& on &$color('this_color' >> 4)&"
end

For keys/locks it used to be that way but it isn't anymore because you can change the palette (in fact, most people do! MZX may have once been conceived as a tool for porting ZZT games but times have changed a lot) and the palette values were being used to index this. If you want keys/locks to behave this way it means coding your own key/lock robots. Hint: they should only be about 3-4 lines each.

- Exo

[asiekierka]

Please add in new version Online support:
Full idea set:
- new command: Download "filename"
Downloads to all users from admin file "filename".
- option: All users can change board using passages.
If unchecked, only admin can. If checked, everyone can, but that board will be only on monitors of they which go there...
- option: Download full world.
If unchecked, it would download only world, without music, and download music when needed. If checked, it would load all files automatically.
- Loading board option.
There you can select the board shown when downloading files.
- Builtin variables: Downloaded and AllToDownload.
Downloaded is a number of files downloaded. AllToDownload is number of all files to download.

How to do:
1. IP connection. (so everyone connects to admin and admin to everyone, realtime sending data).
2. FTP/Port connection. (so admin puts a world files on FTP, and using ports, data are sended, and data are sended like in communicators).

I please just for passage option and Download command, and network support.
And Exophase, you can release of course a unofficial build of MZX with network support.

[Goshi]

Online support has been attempted before and no one cares. If you want to make an online game make it with something else >_>

[asiekierka]

which not works on my PC because of private IP? I NEED MZX online because... er... i want to do better #mzx...

[Revvy]

It's not going to happen. Don't even argue about it.

[Jur]

What this tourettes this thing having with the back up files, and how you expunge it's repetitive and excessive habits?

And why does it destroys my windows speed just as spontaneous as the former problem?

[Pyro1588]

kind of an odd request, but it'd be nice. is it possible to implement an smzx mode similar to mode 3, but instead of having double-wide pixels, have two chars used for one char? basically, instead of using two pixels next to each other for the color value, use one pixel and then the same pixel in the next char? that would require two chars for every char displayed onscreen, but it would allow for alot more detail.

does this make any sense? or did i describe it bad?

[Terryn]

Jur, on Apr 16 2006, 07:02 PM, said:

What this tourettes this thing having with the back up files, and how you expunge it's repetitive and excessive habits?

And why does it destroys my windows speed just as spontaneous as the former problem?

There're options to remove and alter that behavior in the config file.

[Spectere]

Pyro: Actually, that's how many grayscale engines work, at least ones for TI graphing calculators (maybe even Gameboy grayscale? I'm not too sure about that one). 'twould be pretty neat.

[Razerboy]

256 COLEREZ SUP4T PLZ.
IT WUD B R8 AW$U/\/\!!!

[Spectere]

Razerboy, on Apr 26 2006, 12:59 AM, said:

256 COLEREZ SUP4T PLZ.
IT WUD B R8 AW$U/\/\!!!

...

No.

[zombieguy]

Since the numbers on the side of the char editing window have been removed this makes it impossible to convert char edit commands to chars while not in game.
I'm talking about the char edit 'a' # # # # # # # # # # # # # # command.
So uh, something that would convert char edit commands to chars would be good since the numbers were removed making it impossible to convert them manually.

Of course, something like this is hardly required since there's other ways to go about getting these chars (to the exact pixel) such as taking a screenshot of the screen while in game, or using the save_world counter.

This post has been edited by ZoMbIeGuTs: 25 August 2006 - 02:03 AM

[Superfunk]

ZoMbIeGuTs, on Aug 24 2006, 08:58 PM, said:

Since the numbers on the side of the char editing window have been removed this makes it impossible to convert char edit commands to chars while not in game.
I'm talking about the char edit 'a' # # # # # # # # # # # # # # command.
So uh, something that would convert char edit commands to chars would be good since the numbers were removed making it impossible to convert them manually.

When editing a robot, press F5 to open up the char edit menu, and there, you can choose a char, and when you close the window, the char's necessary numbers will automatically be printed.

[zombieguy]

funkbrat, on Aug 25 2006, 12:21 PM, said:

ZoMbIeGuTs, on Aug 24 2006, 08:58 PM, said:

Since the numbers on the side of the char editing window have been removed this makes it impossible to convert char edit commands to chars while not in game.
I'm talking about the char edit 'a' # # # # # # # # # # # # # # command.
So uh, something that would convert char edit commands to chars would be good since the numbers were removed making it impossible to convert them manually.

When editing a robot, press F5 to open up the char edit menu, and there, you can choose a char, and when you close the window, the char's necessary numbers will automatically be printed.

You misunderstood me, I meant reversing that process. Creating a char from a char edit code.

[Nedemai]

I think what ZoMbIeGuTs is requesting is a way to type in a character code as its number into MZX to generate a character in the char set.

Say I had the code from an older mzx game that read

Char edit 1 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 1

Since I cannot tell what that character looks like (I think I do know this one) how would I be able to recreate it in the character set? I think what zombie is requesting is to be able to take the 14 digit code character code and generate in the charset the character for that code.

Edit; Zombie Ill create a util for ya if its decided not to add this request

This post has been edited by Nedemai: 26 August 2006 - 02:22 AM

[zombieguy]

Eh, something like this is hardly high in demand. I don't know what I was thinking :p, it really doesn't matter at all.

[Dr Lancer-X]

If you don't have to do it that often, it's not too hard to do it by hand. Just count down each row, and subtract the highest number you can out of 128, 64, 32, 16, 8, 4, 2, 1 and when you do, add a pixel on that row to the respective column. Lather, rinse, repeat..

I've had to do it that way before, ages ago (back when I used the char edit command for things other than counter-derived graphics), and it's not the nicest process if you can avoid it. Still, I doubt that the feature will be added because it's not really necessary.

EDIT: Right you are, Tox.