[Val]

T-Bone it actually isn't really that hard at all. It just takes some time.

[T-Bone]

Trust me i know and a lot of time at that depending what type of image your looking at.

[Lachesis]

I know you guys love these menu screenshots



Here you can see:

- Job position moved right to be aligned with new stats
- HP/MP moved to make a little more sense
- "MAGIC ATTACK POWER"
- "XP REQ. FOR LEVEL UP"

And if you look down at the bottom, you can see the instructions for the assignment engine and 6 empty spaces assigned to Z, X, C, V, B, and N.

[Lachesis]

hey guys guess what



my main magic engine is finished. what you see is the test board, and where there formerly were snakes, is now a large explosion

This post has been edited by Kuroneko: 01 January 2007 - 04:01 AM

[Lachesis]

what game this is for, you may never know:



but it isnt for nbg

edit: i should mention, the characters rotate around when you press left and right

This post has been edited by Kuroneko: 10 January 2007 - 04:30 AM

[Lachesis]

[YapokJr]

Kureneko is well on his way to creating a Megazeux game that matches the Super Nintendo Final Fantasy games for the silly juxtaposition of oversized, beautifully drawn enemies facing off against tiny, cartoonish player characters.

Like the dragon, by the way.

[Lachesis]

What you don't see: the trippy 360-degree spin effect

EDIT: or the enemies and characters

EDIT 2: and the color changes (ie it doesnt always look poop colored )

This post has been edited by Kuroneko: 21 January 2007 - 12:51 AM

[Lachesis]

Some battle screenshots:


ONOZ IT'S A BOSS


YAY BATTLE COMPLETE


And Kuroneko spake to thee, "Fuck thy level up system and fuck thy common stat gain systems," and thus it was so, for Jean-Luc Picard spake, "Make it so." For now, thee stats are gained in tiny proportions after every battle thee fight in. --Kuroneko 7:28

[Spectere]

So when are your fun bits of funness actually going to get released?

[Val]

So when are your lox-encrusted bits of CJAness going to

[Lachesis]

spectere, it tends to vary slightly, but i usually go by how jupiter and venus allign with mars and the north star

guy, shut up fatty

This post has been edited by Kuroneko: 21 January 2007 - 10:19 PM

[Lachesis]

new enemy row and new message display engine


more of the new message display engine


same as above with a different background

[Val]

For comparison,

Guy said:

So when are your lox-encrusted bits of CJAness going to

This post has been edited by Guy: 04 July 2007 - 07:02 PM

[Lachesis]

Though the message system is (unintentionally) similar to CJA's, the gameplay is quite different between the games, so I don't really think this could be labeled as a CJA ripoff. Also, the background works on an ENTIRELY different engine, and hardly bears any similarity.

In other news, I've started work on a PLOT SETTING that the PLOT OBJECT PLOT VERBS into towards the start of the PLOT SCENARIO.

[Val]

Take another good look at the screenshot. A nice, long look.

Now, tell me you didn't at least subconsciously steal the designs.

[Lachesis]

Guy, on Jul 4 2007, 01:12 PM, said:

Take another good look at the screenshot.  A nice, long look.

Now, tell me you didn't at least subconsciously steal the designs.

Now, what exactly are you referring to now? If you mean the status bar at the bottom, that was the easiest way to line up five boxes with character stats while still keeping a general Earthboundishly shaped enemy display. The background, again, hardly bears any similarity to Ay Caramba; mine fades through additive spectrum primary and secondary colors while displaying a sinewave with increasing and decreasing wavelength that loops from left to right, top to bottom. CJA's is hardly even close to that, except maybe trying to achieve a "psychodelic" background similar to that from Earthbound. The text messages... probably subconsciously stealing, but it's a great way to display more than one message and be able to read every message, which was a problem before (the messages can go by incredibly quickly). I could think of no better way to make that work, and I didn't realize the similarity to CJA's work at the time; it had been many months since I had touched either this game or played Ay Caramba. The games most likely share similar roots; the concept of PLOT REVEALING TITLE was set before I even played the Ay Caramba demo.

This post has been edited by Kuroneko: 04 July 2007 - 08:30 PM

[Val]

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the concept of PLOT REVEALING TITLE was set before I even played the Ay Caramba demo.

The concept, maybe. The battle screen obviously a while after.

No excuses change the fact that the screens still look extremely similar. Your background being more "psychedelic" doesn't change anything, since they're the same concept. The background in that AC screen isn't the only background used; there are ones that are a lot more "psychedelic," on par with what you've got going here.

Also, look at the yellow arrows.

This post has been edited by Guy: 04 July 2007 - 08:34 PM

[Lachesis]

The battle screen was the first thing I ever did in the game, and I made it when I got the concept.

I've already said the layout is similar, but everything has a reason for being the way it is. I'm sorry my layout looks like CJA's, but that's mostly if not all coincidence, and that gives me no reason to change it. So what if you bitch? CJA most likely won't; he played an older version of the engine that was mostly the same as it is now sans the message display, and he didn't mind it.

And? Yellow arrows are yellow arrows. A lot of games use yellow arrows; this is not my first game to do so (see: Shaqhut II).

EDIT: And my untitled poop road themed platformer, which you can see above. And countless numbers of games in the archive, no doubt.

This post has been edited by Kuroneko: 04 July 2007 - 08:55 PM

[Val]

No, see, you're missing the point. Maybe CJA will "bitch," maybe he won't. Maybe he played a version of it, maybe you're lying. Still doesn't change the facts. For all anyone knows, you could be lying and did make the battle screen after you saw AC, since the first battle screen pic was 5 days after CJA's updated AC journal began. Actually, the dates make it very likely that you consciously ripped him off, seeing as how the original Ay Carumba demo was released on November 11th, 2006.

[Lachesis]

Your argument assumes and even tries to force down the reader's throat that I am ripping off CJA. It's like you're trying to make a living version of some wacky half-assed Phoenix Wright chapter (not meant to insult PW; I love that game). Now, I didn't even play the Ay Caramba demo until after the journal appeared (I remember you harrassing me to play the damn thing), so how could I have consciously ripped it off before that? I'd say we end this stupid argument right now and settle with the fact that I didn't directly rip CJA off, but you aren't satisfied with that. You seem awfully satisfied with antagonizing me over this pointless bullshit that CJA probably won't even mind. Like I said, CJA PLAYED AN OLDER VERSION OF THIS, THAT LOOKS ALMOST EXACTLY THE SAME. I can link you to the file on mIRC, if you want. There isn't much different in it from what I have now. What difference does it make, anyway? You can complain about me ripping him off, but the true judges will be the people who choose to compare the games when they get released, not you, who would obviously be biased towards CJA and against me anyway. Good day, sir. This is my last contribution to this argument, since any form of arguing is pointless against you.

This post has been edited by Kuroneko: 04 July 2007 - 09:28 PM

[Seventh Shade]

Who cares!? As long as something gets finished.

[CJA]

I hereby give Guy the right to make assertions on my behalf.

EDIT: To clarify, that is to say that I remember playing the demo of your game and that I agree with Guy on all points! I do mind, actually.

This post has been edited by CJA: 04 July 2007 - 09:47 PM

[Lachesis]

CJA, on Jul 4 2007, 02:39 PM, said:

I agree with Guy on all points!

of course you do; you wouldn't be tpr> if you didn't

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I do mind, actually.

funny enough, I remember you not minding when I originally gave you the demo! either way, the project goes on.

[Val]

Kuroneko, on Jul 4 2007, 05:53 PM, said:

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I do mind, actually.

funny enough, I remember you not minding when I originally gave you the demo! either way, the project goes on.

"Funny enough" indeed, since he told me around a half hour ago that he didn't actually like it at all in a response to me telling him about the situation right now.

And of course the project goes on; you can't be fazed by such things as criticism, no siree.

This post has been edited by Guy: 04 July 2007 - 10:09 PM

[Lachesis]

Guy, on Jul 4 2007, 03:03 PM, said:

you can't be fazed by such things as criticism, no siree.

i've gotten used to your criticism now; it's all you ever do to anything I do, ever. Your criticism is worthless because it's biased against me.

[Val]

It sure is, Kuroneko. All those aesthetic similarities between your game and CJA's are just purely coincidental, and I couldn't possibly actually be concerned or anything. I just hate you and everything you do, obviously.

If everybody thought criticism was "biased against them" just because it was suggesting they change what they're doing, nobody would listen to criticism.

[Seventh Shade]

nevermind

This post has been edited by Seventh Shade: 04 July 2007 - 10:52 PM

[Lachesis]

Guy, on Jul 4 2007, 03:39 PM, said:

it was suggesting they change what they're doing

Well, you never asked me to change what I was doing! All you did was complain

redoing the layout of my engine would require me to literally tear apart every robot's code and put it back together, anyway. Especially the message display, which isn't even that similar but oh well

anyway, I'm sorry I'm apparently ripping off CJA's game (even though the gameplay is entirely different!) which is really just ripping off Earthbound, but i'm still not changing my game <:P

[Val]

Kuroneko said:

the message display, which isn't even that similar

Kuroneko said:

The text messages... probably subconsciously stealing