[Mr. Apol]

never turn your back on black magic

[ShloobeR]

die you evil druaga

[CJA]

what a great thread!

the third picture from the bottom works amazingly well in this context

[Sai'ke]

[Ando]

The fifth one down is/was the prototype for Phantasy Star IV. They were thinking of designing it like Phantasy Star I but then they changed their minds for some reason. It probably would have been a more interesting game if they hadn't, but it's still cool.

Also I thought that I was like, maybe one out of a thousand people online who know about that picture.

[Mr. Apol]

Ando, on May 25 2008, 03:49 PM, said:

The fifth one down is/was the prototype for Phantasy Star IV. They were thinking of designing it like Phantasy Star I but then they changed their minds for some reason. It probably would have been a more interesting game if they hadn't, but it's still cool.

Also I thought that I was like, maybe one out of a thousand people online who know about that picture.

[Mr. Apol]

guys are you pumped about my game i've been playing a lot of might and magic for the nes okay

[djtiesto]

Sure, can you tell us more about it?

I always wonder what PS4 would have been like with 3D dungeons... probably still fuck-amazing.

[Mr. Apol]

[djtiesto]

Looks awesome!!

[Mr. Apol]

maxim is helping on the programming and music end of this, and i'm still working on graphics. lot of work to be done, but it's coming along!

[Maxim]

Get psyched, guys. I can already tell you that this game is going to rule.

[Galladin]

GARSP. So this is how it feels like to get a kick in the balls. It looks awesome, Apollyon! Any more background info on the game/story/anything? Nice to see some people are still working on quality games.

[djtiesto]

I've been trying to talk Maxim into making it really smooth scrolling like in Phantasy Star 1

[Hoof]

I love that. I skipped right past the mzx shot the first time, thinking that it was just another random screenshot.

http://www.youtube.c...h?v=Rn4Ie8WL7sE

[djtiesto]

Hoof, on Nov 19 2008, 02:40 AM, said:

I love that. I skipped right past the mzx shot the first time, thinking that it was just another random screenshot.

http://www.youtube.c...h?v=Rn4Ie8WL7sE

If I could rate posts, I'd rate this 11/10...

Phantasy Star 1 music <3 <3 <3

best game series of all time...

[Kom]

hey neat... if i hadn't checked this thread again randomly I would have completely blown it off as some joke/useless thing.

[Mr. Apol]

this is a list (work in progress) of all the different foods you can obtain and eat in the dungeon crawler i'm currently working on. each food affects different nutritional stats (vitamins, proteins, lipids, carbohydrates, and minerals) which influence stat gains at level up. any food that doesn't have "portable" by its name is considered to be a dish that you can only get at a restaurant in the main town, and it can't be carried into the tower.


[Survival Ration] Portable
NP: +15
Desc: Keeps you going, but tastes like cardboard. Has calories, but not much nutrition.

[Pozole]
NP: +Full
Desc: A traditional stew made from hominy, with pork, chile, and garbanzo beans. A popular dish in the southern countries.

[Kimchi] Portable
NP: +25
Desc: Spicy cabbage preserved through fermentation. Extremely nutritious and will last practically forever.

[Tamale] Portable
NP: +25
Desc: Corn flour with a savory filling of meat and sliced peppers, wrapped in a corn husk and steamed.

[Sweet Potato] Portable
NP: + 20
Desc: A sweet and brightly colored root that is baked and flavored with butter and cinnamon.

[Yaprak Dolma] Portable
NP: + 40
Desc: Grape leaves stuffed with a medley of vegetables. Served cold.

[Shark Fin Soup]
NP: + Full
Desc: A stew made with the fins of sharks. Considered a symbol of wealth.

[Bouletten]
NP: + Full
Desc: A dish of meatballs and gravy, served with steamed potatoes.

[Ropa Vieja]
NP: + Full
Desc: A delicious dish of shredded pork cooked in a spicy red sauce. Usually served with stewed black beans and rice.

[Banana] Portable
NP: + 15
Desc: Nutritious fruit of the banana tree.

[Dungeon Grass] Portable
NP: + 10
Desc: A bitter tasting grass that grows in areas of the Tower. You can survive on it, but just barely.

[Garlic] Portable
NP: + 10
Desc: Odorous bulb that is healthy, but hard for some people to eat raw. Also used as an undead repellant by some.

[Haggis] Portable
NP: + 30
Desc: A mixture of minced giblets, onions, and oats cooked in an animal stomach. Not immediately appealing, but beloved by some.

[Onion] Portable
NP: + 15
Desc: Strong flavored bulb that causes some people to cry upon slicing it. Gives you terrible breath.

[Tomato] Portable
NP: + 15
Desc: A large red fruit that is a componet of many dishes and sauces, but delicious on its own.

[Apple] Portable
NP: + 20
Desc: Long said to bring health and longevity to those who eat lots of them.

[Dog Meat] Portable
NP: + 30
Desc: Meat cut from a lupine animal. Some people find it repulsive.

[Monster Meat] Portable
NP: + 25
Desc: Some of the Tower's inhabitants have edible, if unappetizing, flesh.

[Lizard Tail] Portable
NP: + 50
Desc: Tail of a Lizardman. Suprisingly delicious, and considered a delicacy by some of the more adventurous gourmands.

[Steak] Portable
NP: + 40
Desc: A large seasoned cut of prime beef.

[Shiitake Mushroom] Portable
NP: + 15
Desc: A mushroom from the west that has an earthy flavor.

[Bread] Portable
NP: + 20
Desc: A loaf of wheat bread. A staple food amongst the people of Telheim.

[Dragon Meat] Portable
NP: + 75
Desc: Legendary meat cut from a dragon. Fabled to give warriors unparalled strength.

[Golden Apple] Portable
NP: + Full + 10 HP/Max
Desc: Mythical fruit that's said to bestow eternal youth on whoever eats them.

[Ambrosia] Portable
NP: + Full + 10 MP/Max
Desc: Food of the Gods. Said to bestow the wisdom of the sages on anyone who partakes of it.

[Manna] Portable
NP: + Full
Desc: Sweet food sent down from the Heavens. Extremely nutritious.

[Laetiporus] Portable
NP: + 20
Desc: A type of mushroom that can be prepared as if it were chicken. Found growing on dungeon walls.

[Salmon] Portable
NP: + 30
Desc: A commonly eaten fish, that can be prepared in a multitude of ways.

[Dungeon Crab] Portable
NP: + 35
Desc: A rare type of crab only found in pools of water in the Tower. Fetches a high price at market.

[Bone] Portable
NP: + 10
Desc: The marrow inside can be eaten in emergencies.

[Rock Salt] Portable
NP: + 5
Desc: Contains minerals, but doesn't taste very good by itself.

[Slime Jelly] Portable
NP: + 10
Desc: Edible gelatinous body of the slimes that wander the Tower.

[Red Jelly] Portable
NP: + 20
Desc: Edible body of the red slime. Spicy and tastes like cherries and cinammon.

[Blue Jelly] Portable
NP: + 20
Desc: Edible body of the blue slime. Chilling and tastes like mint and blueberries.

[Cheddar Cheese] Portable
NP: + 20
Desc: Flavorful aged cheese with a sharp taste.

[Bleu Cheese] Portable
NP: + 25
Desc: A pungent and salty cheese cured with a specific type of mold.

[Camembert] Portable
NP: + 20
Desc: A milky ripened cheese with a musty taste and aroma, usually eaten with bread.

[Swiss Cheese] Portable
NP: + 15
Desc: A nutty and bittersweet cheese that is filled with holes created by a type of bacteria used its production.

[Red Wine] Portable
NP: + 15
Desc: Expensive wine made with red grapes. Goes well with red meat.

[White Wine] Portable
NP: + 15
Desc: Wine that is extremely popular to pair with shrimp dishes.

[Beer] Portable
NP: + 25
Desc: Alcoholic beverage made from brewed wheat, yeast, and hops.

[Whisky] Portable
NP: + 30 SPI + 10 (perm)
Desc: Extremely rare single-malt scotch, aged eighty years. Drink of kings.

[Cheerwine] Portable
NP: + 15
Desc: A sweet beverage with a cherry flavor, popular amongst people on the eastern coastal lands.

[Irn Brew] Portable
NP: + 15
Desc: Delicious beverage that makes you feel like you’re made of iron.

[Ortolan Bunting] Portable
NP: + Full (adds curse status effect)
Desc: A small bird that is force fed and drowned in liquor, then eaten whole. Considered a delicacy by demons.

[Filet Mignon] Portable
NP: + 50
Desc: Expensive cut of beef tenderloin, wrapped in bacon. Not very healthy, but delicious.

[Salt Pork] Portable
NP: + 35
Desc: Cut of pork cured with salt. Cheap and stores well.

[Hardtack] Portable
NP: + 25
Desc: Cracker made of flour, water, and salt. Hard as a rock, but lasts forever.

[Black Beans] Portable
NP: + 25
Desc: Delicious and healthy beans that are a staple food for many people.

[Almonds] Portable
NP: + 10
Desc: Healthy nuts that are popular as a snack.

[Dried Dates] Portable
NP: + 30
Desc: Dried fruit that provides a lot of energy, for little cost.

[Carrot] Portable
NP: + 15
Desc: Orange vegetable that is very nutritious.

[Potato]
NP: + 25 Portable
Desc: Staple food that is cheap and filling, but tastes bland.

[Lemon] Portable
NP: + 10
Desc: Packed with vitamins, but very sour.

[Beef Jerky] Portable
NP: + 30
Desc: A survival food favored by thrifty explorers. Provides a moderate amount of protein and energy.

[Tasty Meat] Portable
NP: + 75
Desc: Large hunk of roast pork. A specialty of the Belmondo Restaurant in Telheim.

[Rice Ball] Portable
NP: + 15
Desc: A rice ball wrapped in dried seaweed.

[Portobello] Portable
NP: + 15
Desc: A mushroom usually cooked into other dishes, but appetizing by itself.

[Tikka Masala]
NP: + Full
Desc: Roasted chicken in a spicy curry sauce.

[Fried Noodles] Portable
NP: + 20
Desc: Stir-fryed noodles, cooked with carrots, onions, and cabbage.

[Milk] Portable
NP: + 15
Desc: Cow's milk. Nutritious and full of calcium.

[Coffee] Portable
NP: + 10
Desc: Keeps your eyes wide and your spirits up, even late into the night.

[Tea] Portable
NP: + 10
Desc: Strong tea grown in the eastern Balkas Mountains.

[Yoghurt] Portable
NP: + 30
Desc: A dairy product produced by bacterial fermentation of milk. Very healthy!

[Strawberry] Portable
NP: + 15
Desc: Large, freshly picked strawberries. Especially popular amongst Telheim's female population.

[Honeydew] Portable
NP: + 30
Desc: A sweet melon loved by certain species of monsters within the Tower.

[Grapes] Portable
NP: + 25
Desc: Delicious red grapes native to the Onaesus Valley south of Telheim.

[Chicken Leg] Portable
NP: + 35
Desc: Oddly, this dish is extremely popular with vampire hunters.

[Blood Sausage] Portable
NP: + 30
Desc: Sausage made primarily of blood. A favorite among warriors.

[Pumpkin Pie] Portable
NP: + 35
Desc: A flavorful autumn favorite made with spiced pumpkin.

[Roesti] Portable
NP: + 25
Desc: A type of potato pancake popular with men from the icy northern lands.

[Spinach] Portable
NP: + 10
Desc: A longtime favorite of strongmen, not very filling but extremely nutritious.

[Foie Gras] Portable
NP: + Full
Desc: Duck liver paste, considered by gourmands to be one of the world's finest delicacies.

[Caviar] Portable
NP: + Full
Desc: sturgeon eggs eaten by the aristocracy. Considered a delicacy.

[Truffle] Portable
NP: + Full
Desc: An extremely rare mushroom that only grows under certain species of trees. Considered one of the world's finest foods.

[Paella]
NP: + Full
Desc: An extravagant seafood dish. Signature dish of the Valencia Restaurant in Telheim.

[Ice Cream] Portable
NP: + 20
Desc: A rich, fattening vanilla ice cream.

[Sole Meuniere]
NP: + Full
Desc: A filet of sole served with a brown butter sauce and lemon.

[Wheat Roll] Portable
NP: + 20
Desc: A healthy and filling roll made of whole wheat.

[Sachertorte]
NP: + Full
Desc: A decadant chocolate cake that only the rich can afford.

[Mille-feuille]
NP: + Full
Desc: A sweet dessert with many layers of pastry.

[Tarte au Poire] Portable
NP: + 20
Desc: A delicious pear tart.

[Gateau Fraise]
NP: + Full
Desc: A shortcake with large, fresh strawberries. Countess Barber's favorite dessert!

[Kugelhopf]
NP: + Full
Desc: A sophisticated cake made with almonds and brandy.

[Langues de Chat] Portable
NP: + 15
Desc: A long, thin, crisp cookie named "cat's tongue." A certain monster in the Tower is crazy about them.

[1000 Year Egg] Portable
NP: + 50
Desc: A duck egg preserved in clay and ash. Looks disgusting, but tastes wonderful. Said to bring good luck if eaten.

[Jamon Iberico] Portable
NP: + 75
Desc: A ham cured in secret technique passed down by a single family. One of the finest meats in the world.

[Spicy Shrimp]
NP: + Full
Desc: A spicy shrimp dish popular with children in Telheim.

[Roast Duck]
NP: + Full
Desc: A savory roasted duck served with scallions. Traditionally eaten during the winter solstice.

[Pasta Carbonara]
NP: + Full
Desc: A pasta is made with fresh eggs, cream, and bacon. It is a popular dish among the working class in Telheim.

[Penne Arrabiata]
NP: + Full
Desc: A short pasta with a spicy tomato and chili sauce. It's name means "angry".

[Boiled Egg] Portable
NP: + 15
Desc: A chicken egg cooked by boiling. Good with a touch of salt.

[Ground Beef] Portable
NP: + 30
Desc: Finely minced beef used in a variety of dishes. Cheap and filling.

[Moldy Bread] Portable
NP: +5
Desc: Bread that has green mold growing all over it. Not very appetizing.

[Beehive] Portable
NP: + 25
Desc: Dripping with sweet honey.

[Amanita] Portable
NP: -15
Desc: A toxic mushroom that induces hallucinations. Not wise to eat it.

[Rotten Meat] Portable
NP: -75
Desc: A hunk of rotting meat of unknown origin. It reeks of death.

[Spoiled Milk] Portable
NP: -50
Desc: Curdled, disgusting milk. Just smelling it makes you gag

[Mr. Apol]

battle system design doc!

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BATTLE SYSTEM

PART A: set up


battles are initiated whenever a player and a wandering monster occupy the same

space in the maze.

there are a finite number of monsters spawned on each floor, spawned upon entering a floor and they are randomly placed on the floor. no monster may take up the same space as another (could cause conflicts in programming who you're fighting/whatever). i would also go so far as to say that monsters cannot enter or be spawned in rooms that are considered SAFE, such as puzzle rooms or healing fountains or event rooms. these will be specially marked on the map though. as a general rule i think we should say that monsters are not able to move through doors - might keep things simpler.

each time a player moves, all monsters on the field move. monsters can possibly have movement patterns, could say they always turn left that way they'd always go through the whole maze, but we'll see. monsters are spawned in one of three states:

1. hungry - monster is aggressive and can be bribed - chance they'll take the bribe is higher

2. normal - monster can be bribed, but the chance they'll take it and run is lower. monster might take it and still attack, especially if they're intelligent.

3. full - monster cannot be bribed, but also may not attack depending on the type. chance monster will run away if player is sufficiently high level.

ratio of these are as such

if ten monsters:

five hungry
four normal
one full

monsters can be intelligent or animal. intelligent monsters (demons, goblinoids, ghosts) are able to be communicated with and may want gold/jewels/items instead of food. animals do not care for material goods and just want food.

no more than three monsters in a group - monsters in a group are always the same monster (char space limitations neccessitate this)

percentage: 50% chance it's one monster. 30% chance there are two. 15% chance it is three monsters.

PART B : THE ENCOUNTER

when a player and a monster occupy the same space, there is a jingle or a flash or SOMETHING and the player is warped to the battlefield. battles are dragon quest type affairs. you see the enemies lined up in front of you, and flavor text is given:

"X approaches!"

if multiple:

"A pack of Xs approach!"

you are given the following options:

FIGHT
TALK
INTIMIDATE
BRIBE
RUN

Fight: draw your weapon and start the battle - proceed directly to turn order calculation.

Talk: try to communicate with the monster. monsters who are not intelligent, such as slimes, may not be able to talk and you will proceed to battle. (green slime bubbles at you menacingly!) monsters such as demons or goblins might be like "your gold or your life, human!" or there might actually be a conversation started, with a conversation tree - we'll get to those later. for the first couple of floors, there's not going to be enemies like this. If an enemy does specifically request an item, go back to the F/T/B/R menu, so you can choose bribe.

Intimidate: you attempt to look big and scary and make the monster run away. this is determined based on your spirit score and the monsters state - hungry monsters have a much lower chance of being intimidated, while full monsters might not want to take the chance of fighting you.

Bribe: takes you to the following menu:
Pack - pick an item out of your pack
Florin - (oh yeah currency in the game is the florin) - give them gold

In the pack you can choose an item to give to the monster. this can either be the item they requested (in which case you give them the wrong item, it is lost and you fight the monster (though maybe you can get the item back after beating them)) or it can be a food item if the monster is an animal type. if the monster takes the food and was hungry, there is a 75% chance it will run from the battle "Hound takes the bone and turns tail!" otherwise it will eat the item and continue fighting "Hound appreciates the treat, but still looks hungry! Hound leaps at you!" and the fighting commences. if the monster is intelligent and wants an item, go by the same rules, but the item is not used up and can be reclaimed from that monsters loot when you kill it, assuming it didn't run away.

same thing goes for gold. if you give gold to a monster and it doesn't run, you get the gold back if you kill it. also, sometimes bribe items will hurt or kill a monster - throwing garlic at a vampire will deal massive damage, or throwing some rock salt a slug monster will insta kill it. if you do this and there are multiple monsters, immediately proceed to battle with the remaining monsters.

RUN - pretty self explanatory. easier to run if there's less monsters. this shouldn't be very much trouble for you. (note: if you run from a monster, it doesn't get deleted from the map, but it is transported to a random location on the map so you don't run right back into it.)

part C: the battle

once battle commences, turn order is calculated first. turn order is displayed along the bottom of the screen in profile portraits (like eternal poison). turn order can be calculated however you like but my idea is to do a sort of dungeon and dragons system where your dex score gives you a bonus to initiative, a random 1-20 number is calculated, your bonus added to the result. same goes for each monster (monster types will have their own initiative bonus based on their monster type) and then results are compared and the turn order figured out. a ROUND is defined as whenever every participant in the battle has had their turn.

in order for the turn order portrait to be displayed at the bottom of the screen, (profiles will probably be a 2x3 or 2x2 block) calculate the turn order three ROUNDS ahead. certain spells will give you buff to your dex, changing your iniative, so if this happens, reroll whoever buffed and redo the turn order portraits reflecting the change.

in the bottom left, the player HP/MP is displayed (might do a bar as well as a number value, for aesthetics) along the left side, starting at the top left, enemy hp/mp is displayed in the same way, every enemies hp/mp is visible, stacked going down towards the player's status display.

in battle, you have the following menu:

ATTACK
GUARD
TECH
ITEM
RETREAT


ATTACK - attack the enemy with a physical attack with whatever is equipped.

attack damage is calculated via the ATT stat (inherent strength + equipped weapon)

GUARD - defend against enemy's next attack - will reduce damage from a physical attack by 75%, will reduce damage from an elemental spell by 50%.

TECH - use a technique you have learned - can be a physical technique or special move, or a spell you have learned.

ITEM - use an item from your pack.

RETREAT - go back to the FIGHT/TALK/BRIBE/RUN menu. usually once you attack, enemies will not be susceptible to bribing and will not speak to you. this is really only so you can run from the fight. you can also try to intimidate again, if the monster has low HP, they might just run from the fight.


PART D: aftermath

after the battle is done (enemy runs, you bribe successfully, you run, or you kill the enemy) calculate exp gains

following applies

killing monster: full EXP - monster erased from map
enemy runs: 50% EXP - monster randomly teleported to another spot
bribe success: 75% EXP - monster erased from map
you run: 0% EXP if you took no damage (first try worked) - 10% if you did -monster randomly teleported to another spot

animals drop items when you kill them (either food items or parts of their body that are items (fur, teeth, etc). intelligents drop gold and items. if the monster was a new encounter, the monster is recorded in your monster logbook.


PART E: monsters

monsters can have weakness or resistances. weapon types are piercing (spears, arrows), slashing (swords, daggers) or blunt (hammers, axes, heavy weapons).

enemies can be weak to some and resistant to others. this will be detailed in the monster's file. elements are flame, ice, shock, and holy. same applies.

there are different monster types but i don't know if this will really play into any mechanic (ex: goblinoids, dragons, slimes)

[Mr. Apol]

oh yeah some screens

[Kom]

This is very nice, Mr. Apol, keep it up, I know I'll definitely keep an eye on this still.

EDIT: I suppose to be a bit more descriptive...

I really like your graphics, 3d dungeon and all. A turn based battle system reminds me of some older games. Your simple style of minimap is very interesting.

This post has been edited by Kom: 28 February 2009 - 07:51 AM

[Seventh Shade]

Can you get anyone else in your party or is it just a one character game?

[KKairos]

That looks like awesome. How's it play (gameplay-wise, I don't suppose there's necessarily an evaluation of gameplay awesome yet), or is that part of the mystery?

[Mr. Apol]

Seventh Shade, on Feb 28 2009, 09:49 AM, said:

Can you get anyone else in your party or is it just a one character game?

one character

lonely game ~

[djtiesto]

Looks awesome!

[T-Bone]

That looks fantastic!

I had a couple project dumps of 3D Dungeon likes. I could never get the engine to work solidly.

[Dr Lancer-X]

Quote

percentage: 50% chance it's one monster. 30% chance there are two. 15% chance it is three monsters.

dude what's the other 5%? zero monsters?

[Ando]

I just want to say that this game has my full support.

[Mr. Apol]

[Hoof]